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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.03.12 13:28:00 -
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Yeah it seems that situation in nuclear powerplant is under control now, overheating and meltdown are apparently stopped and radiation levels are decreasing... hopefully it will stay that way.
Btw residents of Tokyo and some other coastal cities are reporting "wierd looking clouds" high up on the sky 
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.03.12 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Everinsearch Still being rocked by after shocks.
And those are quite strong aftershocks... there were two only in last hour, both 5.8.
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.03.12 23:15:00 -
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Looks like nobody knows for sure what's going on in that reactor right now, and is the worst case scenario really prevented. I just hope that new Chernobyl is not underway.
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.03.13 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Hoya en Marland on 13/03/2011 00:33:25
Originally by: Zachstar Can we keep talk of Chernobyl out of this. COMPLETELY different reactor designs and safety margins.
It's not about the design, safety margins and event triggers, but the final outcome which could be the same as in Chernobyl. Hense the reference.
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.03.14 09:22:00 -
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No. 2 going down too:
The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says a reactor at a power plant in quake-hit Fukushima Prefecture has lost all its cooling capability.
The agency said on Monday that Tokyo Electric Power Company notified the agency of an emergency at the Number Two reactor at its Fukushima Number One power station.
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.03.15 00:21:00 -
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If I understood well, they cannot pump seawater into the reactor(s) any more because of the extremely high pressure built up inside. And making a vent breach in containers is too risky because of the presence of explosive hydrogen?
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.03.17 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Hoya en Marland on 17/03/2011 11:03:52
Originally by: Lady Skank Where are all the posters claiming that one of the worst nuclear disasters in history is a complete "non event"?
Nothing new there dude. Nay-sayers and arogant (self) proclaimed experts do that, always from the safe distance - everything is fine, under control and there's no danger until **** hits the fan. Then they talk about unprecedented series of unfortunate events which no one could foresee, blah blah.
Hell, half of Japan island could be abandoned in next few weeks because of the heavy contamination but I am sure there will be someone claiming that "impossible scenario" as well. Nothing is possible indeed... until it happens.
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.03.18 08:36:00 -
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They are considering an option to burry the reactors under the sand and concrete as a last resort to prevent catastrophic radiation leak. Also company said that they cannot rule out a possibility of the self-ignited fision to occur outside the containment vessels.
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.03.20 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate You're an idiot. They're dumping sea water on the reactors in order to cool the reactors from decay heat, not from fission reactions.
No apparently you are, and your pitiful agenda is easily recognizable. You know very well what I've meant, yet you are taking my words out of the context. Pathetic. Anyway, why don't you step down from your high horse for a moment and tell us why this decay heat is dangerous in this situation? Company already said that the melted fuel leaked out of the damaged containers could become critical and start spontaneous fision *outside* of the reactors housing. Even if this doesn't happen (which won't, hopefully) no one knows for sure, especially not you, how badly those structures are damaged and for how long would they leak radiation into the atmosphere. And in what scale. But knowing that they are seriously considering complete demolishing of the powerplant, and/or burying it under the thick layers of sand and concrete might tell you something about the grave danger it poses to whole Japan - not only right now but in years to come as well.
I said it before and I'll repeat it once again - I don't care about the causes and the event mechanics, all I care is final impact on environment and health of the people. Chernobyl explosion released vast ammount of radiation that spread all over the Europe in very short time. Fukushima on the other hand might be slowly leaking radiation for months and that would lead to same -if not much worse- results.
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.03.20 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate I'm not a broken record, you can read previous posts as to why they're taking all precautions possible. Also, try not to speculate on things you don't understand either (or spread false information. Not all of those questions you asked for "Why this" and such contain accurate info).
Seriously, what are you pretending to be - some kind of expert? Professional nuclear lobbyist? 
Because surely you sound like just another ignorant **** who spent some time on wiki and now trying to sound smart. Even if you were an expert, which is highly unlikely, knowing your "meh, it's nothing!" attitude from day 1 all I can say is that I hope they won't let you nowhere near some reactor. As far as I am concerned, I wouldn't trust you even a driving licence.
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.03.23 23:43:00 -
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Edited by: Hoya en Marland on 23/03/2011 23:47:02
"Experts" are omgwtf surprised... again. And that plant is still releasing radioactive materials into the environment...
-------------------------------- Japanese authorities have detected a concentration of a radioactive substance 1,600 times higher than normal in soil at a village, 40 kilometers away from the troubled nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture.
The disaster task force in Fukushima composed of the central and local governments surveyed radioactive substances in soil about 5 centimeters below the surface at 6 locations around the plant from last Friday through Tuesday.
The results announced on Wednesday show that 163,000 becquerels of radioactive cesium-137 per kilogram of soil has been detected in Iitate Village, about 40 kilometers northwest of the plant.
Gakushuin University Professor Yasuyuki Muramatsu, an expert on radiation in the environment, says that normal levels of radioactive cesium-137 in soil are around 100 becquerels at most. The professor says he was surprised at the extremely high reading, which is 1,630 times higher than normal levels.
He warns that since radioactive cesium remains in the environment for about 30 years it could affect agricultural products for a long time.
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.03.24 10:28:00 -
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Edited by: Hoya en Marland on 24/03/2011 10:36:23
Originally by: Grimpak you know, that seems quite a big number, but you could post a comparision so that one could say how much that really is
Well, it's been said that up to 100 becquerels of cesium-137 is normal. They've measured 163,000 becquerels, 40 kilometers away from the power plant. This is getting worse than Chernobyl.
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.03.30 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: Hoya en Marland on 30/03/2011 20:59:11
Evacuation from one more nuclear power plant underway:
========== Smoke was spotted at another nuclear plant in northeastern Japan on Wednesday, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.
The company said smoke was detected in the turbine building of reactor No. 1 at the Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant around 6 p.m. (5 a.m. ET).
After the dual disasters, Japanese authorities also detected cooling-system problems at the Fukushima Daini plant, and those living within a 10-kilometer radius (6 miles) of Fukushima Daini were ordered to evacuate as a precaution. ========== source: CNN
Originally by: digitalwanderer It isn't chernobyl, but quite a mess to deal with for years just the same....
Yep. Two weeks ago I said that the final outcome might be the same as in Chernobyl. If not worse.
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.04.12 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Hoya en Marland on 12/04/2011 14:39:26
Originally by: digitalwanderer It might continue like this for months until the rods are cooled down for all we know...
... yes, and final outcome will probably be much worse than in Chernobyl
Sure, tens of thousands of people died and whole country suffered *tremendous* damage in earthquake, which had to be major distraction, but nevertheless, it is now becoming quite clear that Soviets were in fact much more efficient handling Chernobyl disaster than Japanese in this case.
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